Mohawk would later be relocated, most likely from somewhere else, to replace Lift 2 on the Lift 3’s alignment. It appears that lifts 2 and 3 ran parallel ( ) after the numbering system was put in place and Lift 3 was removed first prior to 1988 (still assuming the date on the map is correct). More on Alpine Valley’s insane lift history (still speculation):Īfter a closer inspection of the 1988 trail map ( ), assuming the date is correct, Mohawk lift was not on the map at that time.
I posted this awhile back, but it appears to have not come through. That would make sense with Mohawk’s (the brand) odd quad chair design with the chairs at 45 degree angles to the haul rope. For it to add up to 13 lifts (assuming there aren’t any missing lifts on the spreadsheet) with 11 doubles and 1 triple, then both the Mohawk (the lift’s name) triple had to have been installed, along with the Mohawk (the brand) quad having most likely been converted to a double.
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I would guess that the other lift is the Mohawk (the lift’s name) Hall triple and they didn’t update the description on the map. That one other lift could be the Mohawk (the brand) quad, but the other Mohawk quad didn’t last very long ( ). The problem with this map is that it shows 13 lifts and only lists 12 of them.
The spreadsheet only lists ten doubles and the map says that there were 11 doubles at the time of the map, which is listed as 1980. It would most likely be lift 10 on the map above.Īs for the rest of the lifts, I don’t think there are enough doubles on the spreadsheet to match the description on this map ( ). With First Adventure (Hall triple), it appears that it was originally 1155 feet long and was extended when lifts 9 and/or 11 were removed, most likely with the installation of EZ Rider. It would be more likely that Lift 8 was that Riblet triple rather than Lift 7, which already reached the summit. The other 1986 Riblet triple with a length of 1393 would most likely be Lift 8 because the former Lift 8 double didn’t reach the summit and the triple did ( ). The 1987 Riblet triple with a length of 1271 was most likely Lift 11. Sheltered Valley is matched with the correct Riblet triple from double checking with Google Earth. The 1987 triple with a length of 1525 should be Broadway, which started very close to Lodge ( ).
The 1986 Riblet triple with a length of 1545 would make more sense for lodge by virtue of being the longest. Starting with the Riblet triples, Lodge is the longest lift on the mountain but the spreadsheet lists Lodge as the second longest Riblet triple. It doesn’t help that Alpine Valley was one of those areas that had one lift per run with 12 runs. I’m seeing a lot of confusion in the spreadsheet. EZ Rider is definitely not longer than Valley Flyer or Super Glide (at least not by 900 ft) and either the EZ Rider height is too high or SG and VF are too low (Alpine Valley says that their hill is 388 ft so I feel like it’s the latter if they are to be believed).
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However, I don’t really think Valley Flyer or Super Glide needed to be detachables – I think it would have been better to have those as fixed quads, and then make Lodge a detachable, since it’s longer than the VF and SG, plus putting the detachable on the other side of the creek would help them have more space to have the maze.Īlso, wow, lots of information is wrong in this chart. I think that them making EZ Rider a detachable is a good idea – detachables are much easier for begineers to load and unload than fixed lifts. I think Alpine chose to build that many as bragging rights – right now they’re tied with Granite Peak for the most # of detachables in Wisconsin. I would actually argue that detachables increase wait times/congestion on the slopes, as one person spends more time on a fixed lift than a detachable, meaning that the slopes are less crowded and there’s less people waiting. Detachables don’t increase capacity – a detachable quad and a fixed quad both usually have a capacity around 2000-2400 pph.
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